tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38495605.post1451248363015493871..comments2023-09-07T04:13:08.133-04:00Comments on johndegen.com: balanced concerns?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38495605.post-9571006339546038732011-02-14T18:39:33.456-05:002011-02-14T18:39:33.456-05:00Let me just add that I do not think that increased...Let me just add that I do not think that increased public participation in sometimes complex issues is necessarily always going to be a good thing (though awareness can't hurt).<br /><br />I am just pointing out the trend I see and likelihood of it being an increasing influencer.Crockettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38495605.post-77409207182515494882011-02-14T18:30:36.986-05:002011-02-14T18:30:36.986-05:00Despicable? I'm afraid your faith in tradition...Despicable? I'm afraid your faith in traditional power brokers is a little old school. I'm sure the protesters in Egypt would have a thing or two to say on that.<br /><br />Now, I'm not really comparing the copyright board, a content collective nor a league of university administrators to a corrupt dictator, but the reality that is emerging today is one of more public participation, or at least awareness, in decisions that effect their lives. See the recent UBB confrontation for a timely example.<br /><br />Now you may not like or agree with this trend, but never the less here it is, and it's only going to increase.<br /><br />Call it despicable, vile, revolting .. whatever helps you sleep at night. But if governments, regulators and businesses do not adjust to this new reality then they will not continue to be relevant. <br /><br />Access copyright was not necessarily wrong in their approach, just a little outdated.Crockettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38495605.post-1326642658108984422011-02-14T17:14:39.319-05:002011-02-14T17:14:39.319-05:00Unsurprisingly, I agree with Sandy.
I don't ...Unsurprisingly, I agree with Sandy. <br /><br />I don't really understand all the drama around Access Copyright's request to limit the interventions in the tariff dispute. It is in the interest of that collective to have the tariff decided as soon as possible, and since this is an industrial negotiation/dispute between a copyright collective and the educational institutions who are signatories to previous licenses, it seems perfectly appropriate -- and fair -- to limit the interventions to those parties. <br /><br />I doubt very much there is anything more individuals and extraneous groups can add to that debate that would not already be covered in detail by education's official spokes-group. I happened to write a letter of support, and would be happy to just have Access Copyright represent my interests there. I certainly feel no need to show up and reiterate my points; but for some reason all the complainers must be heard. <br /><br />Frankly, I see the "complain to the Copyright Board today!" campaign - expertly run by Michael Geist and Howard Knopf - on this tariff dispute to be just more of the exact same playground bullying I discussed in my posting. <br /><br />There is ongoing confusion on the free culture side between the concepts of representative democracy and mob rule. The repeated tactic is <i>Get as many people to shout as loudly as they can as often as they can, and maybe the other side's point won't be heard.</i> It's despicable.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803855978550653817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38495605.post-88240771724599524092011-02-14T15:09:21.336-05:002011-02-14T15:09:21.336-05:00@Crockett,
I assume your reference to "the f...@Crockett,<br /><br />I assume your reference to "the flip side" points to those who support continued strong collective rights administration. Next I assume (from previous comment) that by "shut out dissenting voices" you may be thinking of the Copyright Board of Canada's process on hearing evidence when setting a tariff rate. If my assumptions are correct I must ask: Do you seriously think the Copyright Board is being kept in the dark regarding divergent views on the value of those tariffs? Do you think extending hearings to accommodate everyone with an opinion is a good use of available resources? Or perhaps you are one who thinks that unique Canadian institution is not valuable in the first place. Inquiring minds need to know....Sandy Crawleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38495605.post-74580107831239786132011-02-14T10:45:38.717-05:002011-02-14T10:45:38.717-05:00Some good points John, I truly believe all parties...Some good points John, I truly believe all parties should have equal opportunity to have their say. Even self proclaimed biased ones.<br /><br />But I'm sure your aware there are parties, or collections of them, on the flip side of this debate who have tried to shut out dissenting voices.<br /><br />No ones hands are unstained.Crockettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38495605.post-38811800812809848362011-02-14T10:36:12.871-05:002011-02-14T10:36:12.871-05:00Mr. Clark,
Since you asked -- you got both parts...Mr. Clark, <br /><br />Since you asked -- you got both parts wrong. I don't hide my bias in the copyright debate. I'm very open about it. <br /><br />I'm a professional creator <i>and</i> user of copyright-protected content. I believe the law exists to address those concerns first. If you read the full post, you will notice that I even say my opinions are biased in this way. <br /><br />My concern about Knopf is that he has added nothing new to the hearings with his repeated testimony. That's a waste of everyone's time. I also happen to disagree with almost everything he says about educational use, as do many in his profession. <br /><br />Your second incorrect point has already been addressed. If you can't figure out on your own how creators are also users (often at the exact same moment), I can't help you get there. I have run into many in this debate with severe ideological blockages, and it's really not my job to break through them.<br /><br />Speaking of my job -- wouldn't it be ridiculous if a public servant charged with providing support for the literary writing and publishing community <i>was not</i> personally vocal in insisting that community keep its important economic rights under copyright? <br /><br />You have clearly picked up the free culture habit of using the word "lobbyist" as a lash. Of course, you're wrong about that as well. I am not paid to speak on behalf of artists. I do so voluntarily.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04803855978550653817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38495605.post-38847191990855144542011-02-13T16:21:22.336-05:002011-02-13T16:21:22.336-05:00I take it, then, that Knopf’s opinions are “one-si...I take it, then, that Knopf’s opinions are “one-sided” while your opinions, which disagree with his, are balanced.<br /><br />I further take it that if creators are all rightsholders then something they aren’t is users (in the sense used in n <i>CCH</i>).<br /><br />Which part did I get wrong?<br /><br />Also, who precisely has been “bull[ying]” you in your government-sector job or your clearly unfettered role as a copyright lobbyist?Joe Clarkhttp://joeclark.org/weblogs/noreply@blogger.com